16.3.06

rigolons avec michel

7 commentaires:

Dr Victorino de la Vega a dit…

The New York Times reports that the Dutch government has decided to upgrade the compulsory “cultural integration” exams prospective immigrants have to take before obtaining a visa to the country of Erasmus...in order to “filter away all unwanted religiously conservative individuals”

“A lesson, about the Netherlands' nude beaches, is followed by another: homosexuals have the same rights here as heterosexuals do, including the chance to marry.

Just to make sure everyone gets the message, two men are shown kissing in a meadow.

The scenes are brief parts of a two-hour-long film that the Dutch government has compiled to help potential immigrants, many of them from Islamic countries, meet the demands of a new entrance examination that went into effect on Wednesday


Or course citizen of certain countries with high numbers of “religious conservatives” such as Israel and the US are exempted from taking the exam…but the Dutch government wants us to believe this shouldn’t be interpreted as blatantly racist double-standard directed at Arabs and Mohammedans!

But there’s even worse that sheer racism at work here: ironically, by focusing its message on nude beaches, swingers clubs, hash bars…etc. the Dutch government is contributing to the distortion and debasement of Western culture in the eyes of its critics, thus reinforcing their prejudices.

Just like their Neocon friends in Washington and Tel-Aviv, the Muslim-bashers of Amsterdam and The Hague are useful idiots feeding the anti-Western narrative of Osama Bin Laden and Ayman Al-Zawahiri.

Instead of promoting humanistic and secular values by building schools and universities with modernist secular curricula in the Middle-East and South Asia, instead of telling prospective immigrants the world over that Europe is a beacon of humanism and democracy, we’re content with provoking Muslims gratuitously.

In Hitler’s Germany, Jehovah's Witnesses were forced to accept blood transfusion and force-fed ham so they could become “good Germans”.

In Guantanomo’s prisons, Arab and Muslim detainees were routinely forced to watch gay porn movies while listening to the Israeli national anthem

I guess this must have paved the way for the Dutch government’s new immigration law…

Youyou a dit…

@Dr Victorino: if you are a medical doctor you should be aware that paranoia is a mental disease!

It's quite absurd to compare those laws to what the Nazis did or the US are doing in Guantanamo. When you're going to a country you should be aware of it laws and you whould accept/stick to them! It's as simple as that and from what I read that's what the dutch government is trying to do.

Then you said yourself that the movie is about 2 hours, and I suppose that with nude beaches/Hash Bars and gay getting married they cant make a 2 hours movie, so that's what you choose to focus on and not what the movie is focused on.

I just dont understand why it is shocking to stick to a country rules when you go on visit. When you go to the Emirates do you walk around with a beer and does you wife walk in the streets with only her bikini on?

http://doubtsandconvictions.blogspot.com

Youyou a dit…

Sinon rien à voir avec la choucoutte, bravo pour le site, je conaissait pas et j'ai bien rigolé :)

Merci!!

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shlon a dit…

Yoyo >> Victor a raison, par rapport à l'insidieuse propagande qui justement est tellement "discrète" qu'elle peut échapper à la critique par le simple mot de "paranoia"...

Et si on estime que certains peuvent légiférer comme ça d'une manière sincère, celà ne fait que prouver l'existance de certains préjugés, dus à l'ignorance, ainsi que la tendance de ces manifestations [qu'elles soient d'ordre légal;, médiatique, ou entertainmenteuse] à exacerber le Grand Malentendu... De propager des idées fausses... De titiller les sensibilités et les complexes...

Enfin, VictorVega, je pensais aussi que ce long commentaire, n'ayant pas grand chose à faire avec le post de base, n'a pas vraiment sa place en entier ici :) C'est intéressant et mérite d'être lu, donc un petit lien, acompagné éventuellement d'une petite accroche serait plus convenable.

Dr Victorino de la Vega a dit…

- Shlon,
OK je ferai plus court la prochaine fois c'est promis...

"Si j'appelle de mes voeux la formation du parti neo-nahdo-aflaqo-républicain, en fidèle disciple du Godinisme wallon je préfère pour ma part opérer dans l'ombre sa frange terroriste patissière Khaliyat al Irhab al 7alwanje" [Chapi]

- Chapi-Chapo,
Tu es décidément toi aussi un génie des temps modernes!
Avec Cheick Chakhakh, Kattag, et l'Aiglon on est désormais cinq comme les trois mousquetaires de Skandar Demmah...

Youyou a dit…

@shlon: "Et si on estime que certains peuvent légiférer comme ça d'une manière sincère, celà ne fait que prouver l'existance de certains préjugés, dus à l'ignorance, ainsi que la tendance de ces manifestations [qu'elles soient d'ordre légal;, médiatique, ou entertainmenteuse] à exacerber le Grand Malentendu... "

Je ne comprend pas ce que tu veux dire par là, de quels préjugés tu parles? si tu estimes que je suis dans l'ignorance éclaire moi, honnêtement il n'y a aucun sarcasme dans ce que je dis, je cherche juste à comprendre ce qu'il y a de choquant à demander aux gens qui immigrent dans ton pays de connaître le background du pays en question et sa langue (en effet cette même loi prévoit que les immigrants doivent parler hollandais).

Cheers et have a nice day

http://doubtsandconvictions.blogspot.com

chakhakh a dit…

gabrielf
lis ma reponse sur Aoun et Baabda 1989 dans les ommentaires du post intitulé "www.mallatforpresident.com" .

EL CHAKHAKH